well getting banned made it hard to let guys know i found a much better place. no censoring or over moderation here mike. as long as we stay cool with no nasty language or inappropriate pic's he leaves us alone. martin is very pro promoting the work rather than the chat as lj's has become. lots of very talented people here. you'll see lots of ex jocks here too. many of us that got banned-lol.
working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.