Thanks RC... just passing on my jollies to the other few masochists (those that don't fear SWMBO and live to tell about it) ... near enough is not always good enough (and the morons microns prove it), l've the luxury of taking my frustration out on those under trodden threaded supplies... and that extra twist makes the pain more rewarding.

If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD