no i hear ya duckie as for atrophy in the hands especially. you know ive had 3 hand surgeries in the last couple years. thats why i bought the cordless pruner you turned me onto. it's gonna be a blessing when i have to prune 30 rose bushes next month. i just have never had a need much for pop rivets.
working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.