as for the smoking george im 100% againts it and im not afraid to tell a smoker the health risk there doing them selves. and if there smoke is in my air space, watch out. having lost both parents to cancer and my wife losing both of hers to COPD ill do what i can to get someone off it. our neighbor who is only about 60 smokes non stop from before sunrise till late at night all day long. lungs aren't designed to take that much punishment ! i pray for her ! i do drink but it's about 95% wine these days, which is supposed to have some health benefits, in moderation of course ! ive been very fortunate at the age of 63 having no major illness or surgeries of any kind. knock on wood !  

good forum george, thank you.

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