Eric - the "Loft"
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Thanks LBD. The kids do have nicknames but felt the full name would be good.

Not quite what I was getting at Lofty, as pottzy would say, ya don't speak duck giblets gibberish.
I was hinting at a nickname a few letter shorter than BRANTLEY and BEN had the least letters... less work... more egg nog time.

If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD