Restoration of an 1897 railroad car. #1: Initial evaluation, or, are we really gonna do this?

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So here is a pictorial listing of what’s wrong.

starting on the left side, you can see how broken the lower frame is

A little farther down someone cut a doorway weakening the truss

Next up, what happens when a tree falls on a weakened car!

Making matters worse, someone had cut one of the intermediate sills making it more susceptible to damage.


Now for the far side walking front to back.



Yea, yet another door. As you can see on this side rot and decay did a real number on us.

I started splicing the intermediate sill yesterday and it’ll go like this.


Using this type of splice backed up with 1/4 steel plates on both sides of the splices.

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Will be following this journey.
This is going to be really interesting!
interesting, it's gonna be incredible !!! good luck ! ill be following.

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

Is that beam doug fir?  

BTW, what sort of budget or cost is allocated for a restoration like this?  I assume that your labor is donated but I imagine that material costs can add up.  

--Nathan, TX. Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

So, you’ll be wrapping it up next week, right, Kevin? 🤪

May you have the day you deserve!

That looks like quite the project!  Is there a time frame with budget and talent lined up?
Nathan, yes DF. Budget ? Well it’s fluid! We have a sawyer that mills our lumber most of which is donated. No shortage of Douglas Fir or Cedar here. We are very low key.

As far as a time line, the last car took us almost five years, there was a large learning curve. Luckily the roof is in pretty good condition, the previous car needed a total replacement. I guess the most expensive item on that car was the Tern Metal for the roof.

There is a wealth of talent here, many engineering degrees, electricians, black smiths and the like. All are retired like myself. Really a good group.

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This sounds like a good project with many friends.
From the looks of that splice, you must be acquainted with timber framing.

So, is the plan to start with the lower frame and work your way up?

"Duck and Bob would be out doin some farming with funny hats on." chrisstef

Duck, yes. The splice is from a book on shipbuilding. Some of the splices are quite complicated

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I haven’t restored anything in a while. This isn’t helping! What a great project 

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Don, who don’t you fly out and I’ll find a spot for you!

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when i retired i swore off flying. 

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Road Trip!

--Nathan, TX. Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

Funny, done more flying since we retired! Just back from Italy a few weeks ago.

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Good choice on that scarf joint design. It has incredible strength even without fasteners or adhesives. Looks really straight forward for the restoration. At least for the longitudinal and transverse carriage base framing. I look forward to more updates. I'd love to take part but like the others here will have to be satisfied with pictures. 

Some of my most creative moments have been when I've had to cover up an error in my woodworking.

Joe, thanks for the thumbs up on the scarf joint. Took a stroll through your project posts, really like the journeymen’s chest. The hinges are awesome, I wasn’t that ambitious.

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See no big issue... I did this in a few hours,

including the tracks...

If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

Did you have to primer everything (including the rails)?
Splinter, we use a 60/40 mix of BLO and DNA

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