Laser Veneer Parquetry Panel, start to finish #1: Fun and Easy!

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This is part 1 in a 1 part series: Laser Veneer Parquetry Panel, start to finish

  1. Fun and Easy!

I've done a previous blog on a similar item, but this time I'm including the design process for those of you who are interested.

Making another panel for a box idea, this time thinking about a different 3-D type layout.

Here is what I have in mind:


Will be 8" x8".
Before I think about veneer wood selection, I need to lay out the design.

I use LightBurn (LB) with my laser, it has excellent tools to do what I'm going to show, but I like doing this with MacDraft, something I've used in one form or another since the 80's
Most any simple drafting/drawing type software can easily do this.

Step one is to think about the basic elements that make this up.

  • Four simpler squares
  • Symmetric "sticks" with 45° ends.
  • Three styles, long, medium, and short with square cut ends.

Plans are for the sticks to be 3/8" wide, I'll let the other dimensions (length) fall where the trigonometry tells it.

Just an 8" x 8" rectangle, 45's corner to corner, and lines offset by 3/8"



I'll just create the parts running horizontally as rectangles, then rotate them 45° as needed.

With some simple duplication and trim operations, I can create the solid shapes for all the pieces and break the thing up into the parts.

This becomes the basic set for one color of veneer to create two of the smaller "sub" boxes that create the whole shape.
Same number of light and dark parts.

Instead of setting up for all four sub boxes from one piece of veneer, I chose for only two since I plan on using some small scraps of about 5" square I have.

This done, I create a "dxf" file so I can import it into the LightBurn software and prepare it for cutting.

Back to MacDraft, I assemble the full panel from the basic sub-square above to get a printout of the parts layout (first picture above), It is just a matter of duplicating the square and rotating/flipping to arrange it all. The following picture has added shading to so I can get the light/dark parts in their correct locations.




Now with the pieces imported into LB, I need to verify the scaling.

Lasers have a very thin cut line (kerf), but just as with a table saw blade (1/8" kerf typically), the lasers kerf needs to be considered.

Again, as with the table saw, I want the part to be the intended size so I'll intentionally cut it oversized by the amount of kerf.
LB allows you to tell it how big this needs to be (1/2 the width of the "spot") and automatically compensates for this when cutting.

("Kerf offset" in the center)



Only 4+ thousandths of an inch, but for a tight fit of all the parts it matters!

To further muddy the issue, diode lasers typically have a rectangular "spot" that does the cutting.





Some are better than others, but it is another issue to consider (CO2 lasers have a true dot if focused well).

LB doesn't (yet) consider this effect in the kerf offset. The rectangle will mean the up/down cuts (Y-axis) will have a wider kerf than the left/right cuts (X-axis).

What to do?

With the pattern I made, I set the width of the parts to 3/8", so I'll cut one out and measure it to see if my kerf offset is what it should be.


Laser setup

Let's step back a bit and run over the machine setup for this project.

Veneer cuts easily, but being wood, it will burn and make smoke. The smoke needs a place to go and the burning should not be a fire.

Typically you would raise the veneer of the "floor" of the laser so the smoke can exit underneath and it won't get heated by the floor where the beam tries to cut into that.
A finned grid will work, but since I have it, I use a piece of rippled glass.
The laser beam will pass through the glass without generating heat and the ripples provide a path for the smoke to get out.
Veneer is rarely flat as well so I like a surface where I can tape it down and keep it flat.




So now I have a test sample of parts cut out on a scrap



I'll take one of the pieces and measure the width using a dial caliper.

It's spot on 3/8" (0.375"). Now to check the length. Pulling a dimension from the MacDraft drawing, I know exactly the length from tip to tip of the long pieces.
With the rectangular beam, I expect this dimension to come up slightly short.
Knowing the difference from as-cut to desired, I'll simply stretch my parts out only in length (x-axis) by the difference.

Time for a real cut. I chose maple, curly and birdseye that was dyed grey. Hopefully it'll have the right contrast, otherwise I'll have to try other woods.

LB allows you to set "tabs" or small bridges where the cutting skips. These tabs keep the part from flying away after the cut is finished.
I only have the tabs along the long grain sides. Tabs in the end grain can be touchy to break off and remove.

Red dots are tab locations, 0.020" wide.




All cut and sizes are correct!

Onto the panel layout

I use vinyl self adhesive shelf liner from WallyWorld as it hold the parts great, but I can still shove them around slightly or remove them if needed.

I'll tape the shelf liner to a 10" x 10" caul of 3/4" MDF with the sticky side up.


(backer paper peeled away)


A couple of straight edges set at 90° for use as guides.


The small setup 45 is great for help in getting all the 45's perfect.

When vacuum pressing this, the exposed side of the veneer will be facing the shelf liner (good side goes down).
Since the laser cuts a bit of taper from the beam spreading out, I'll use the top side when cutting as my "good" side,
This means the side that still has some smoke staining will be up during assembly.

The part edges are burned so I hold the parts with a wide mouth binder clip and use a sanding block to carefully clean off the nibs from the tabs and a bit of the char.

I didn't do the ends (end grain) since that usually causes some damage to the corners.


Now it is just placing and aligning
I did the triangles between the pieces last since I didn't know what wood would look good.
Tried Sapele, but ended up with light walnut.
Used the same adjustment process for size as before

Done!

Now I just cut a piece of plywood for the panel a bit oversize (8-1/2" square).

To have the plywood come out more or less aligned and centered to the veneer layout, I placed some sticks space 1/4" away.



Then it's applying glue (Titebond cold press) with an ink roller to the plywood, setting it against the wood strips, applying glue to the back, and laying on a Sapele backing veneer.

Top caul is 3/4" MDF (8-1/2" square) covered with two layers of paper towels to absorb any glue squeeze out.

Into the vacuum bag for two hours.

Out of the bag, remove the back side caul and the tape holding the shelf liner to the face caul.


The shelf liner peels away easily enough, I do this shortly after removing from the bag to allow air in for the glue to set up at the same rate on both sides to help prevent warping.


Came out good! Visible lines (lower left corner) where the burned ends butt up. Next time I'll see into sanding the ends.

A wipe with mineral spirits to see if the wood combo will work.



I can work with that!

If you've made it this far, congrats and thanks!


17 Comments

Looking great!

Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".

Thanks for the post and information.  In the future, I will try it.
Nice write up! Now I think I might need a laser - you make it look easy.
As Steve says, when you put it like that, it sounds easy.

May you have the day you deserve!


Great writeup and explanation Splinter.  I've been lasering for about 15 years and still learnt a bucketful... (but then again I should be content as I don't read... not can't, just bloody lazy).

Must admit I'm impressed with the features of LB... those red dots a great feature... I have to use a red sharpie to get the affect.
The laser software I use is quite primitive... basically adjust speed, power and order of cut (set up externally)... otherwise I tweak outside the S/W in Corel.  They now use Ruby, but you know the adage, "old dog...".

I have a honeycomb bed

to minimise backburn, though I don't care about charring underneath.  To cut warped veneer/paper. I use steel rulers

around the perimeter and in non cut areas to hold flat. 

For small parts, I lay some aluminium flywire underneath (on top of honeycomp often held flat by the rulers),

to stop the pieces falling through... though most times I'm too lazy and lift the honeycomb and go serching for the dropped part amongst all the other small refuse.

The laser masking tape I use comes in 300mm width and has very light adhesion... just enough to barely hold on, but easy to remove without damaging the veneer... though result (tearout) is governed by the veneer media.  If possible, that extra micron in veneer thickness permits light sanding to remove charring if making tape is not an option.

Only speaking from limited experience on veneers... my main experience is with inlay quality/thickness sheets.

If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

Excellent tutorial with great result!  Now I just need a laser.   😆
Thanks guys!
I bought the laser for my wife's glass work and figured it'd be making router pattern bit templates for me. Little did I know it would be useful in other ways!.

LBD, you work like I do, anything that gets me the spacing or flatness I need is fair game to put under the laser.
I see no burn marks on your measuring devices so I rank you an eggspurt on thinking ahead!

I can now see an advantage for the laser tape. I also will tape the perimeter of veneer or with a burly burl veneer, smash it flat between two glass plates before cutting. That tape, applied over a feisty/delicate veneer could do wonders with taming it and hopefully be removable without damages.  
those red dots a great feature... I have to use a red sharpie to get the affect.

Yes, and there's more.

Not just perfectly round red dots, you don't need solvents to clean the sharpie marks off of your computer screen!

Close-up of the resulting tabs on the cut lines:

Very interesting post, Split. There certainly are are a lot of techniques to employ to get the type of results you get.

It’s nice that LightBurn compensates for the laser kerf, at least in one direction. It would be a nice enhancement for it to deal with the narrow rectangular/elliptical cutting shape when cutting the other direction (or at an angle).

What’s the cost of entry for a starter laser cutting setup? I doubt I’ll ever get one, but it looks like it be fun, and useful, to have one.
There is a freeware software that can post-process g-code and handle the odd-shaped beam spots correctly.
He was cutting out gears (circles with teeth) and a circle will come out slightly oval due to a rectangle (really more like an oval) tracing the path in a circle.

If I want to cut out a rectangle "perfectly", I can rotate it 45° so the kerf will always be the same. There are some lenses and laser modules that also compensate the shape to produce a circular spot, but that comes with the cost of upgrading.
Anyway, I can "fix" most geometric shapes if I need to. More organic free-form shapes are a bit more difficult to fully correct, but then again it's only a couple of thousandths of an inch.

Cutting veneer doesn't take much power, 5 watts will do, you just go a little slower.
I can cut 1/4" plywood and masonite without trouble (10 watt), but it takes more passes or much slower speed (= more time).
True cutters are CO2, blast through most anything and their prices keep coming down, but still north of $1k

Smaller diode lasers with smaller work areas (< 1 sq.ft.) are getting really cheap (low hundreds)

It's a neat tool! Nothing yet that I couldn't do with other methods, but for burning in lettering or cutting random shapes is a lot easier to do quickly and accurately without dedicating hours of training to do it like the Masters do.

Lasers are definitely a you-get-what-you-pay-for tool. But the type laser you need really depends on what you want to do, and there are usually several quality options available based on your needs…small engraving all the way up to cutting metal…just add $$. 

But if you can define why you’d want to do with it, you can figure out the median cost of a type device that will meet your needs. Then at least you’d know where you stand. 

Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".


 SplinterGroup
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LBD, you work like I do, anything that gets me the spacing or flatness I need is fair game to put under the laser.
I see no burn marks on your measuring devices...

I make allowances for sanding.


 SplinterGroup
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I have done similar, manually... though I have to break the line up into 3 pieces per join... The 3rd piece I turn into an engrave (with multi passes), to keep the separation join minimal.



 SplinterGroup
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It's a neat tool! Nothing yet that I couldn't do with other methods, but for burning in lettering or cutting random shapes is a lot easier to do quickly and accurately without dedicating hours of training to do it like the Masters do.

Also ideal for following templates... 3mm MDF is enough to work with (though 6mm is ideal)...
Getting curves (for "normal" templates) is a PITA...
When I need a large template, I cut it in multiple pieces, with dovetails on the joins for accurate fit/alignment.

If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

I'll just cut the template out of thin material that cuts easy and fast, then use that template on a thicker piece of template stock and let the router do the rest. Only issue is making sure there are no insets where the router bit can't go.
School is in session, and Teach knows how to learn ya. Making it look easy, as usual. If LJ's doesn't appreciate you I think we do. I know I do. Still can't wrap my head around that they banned you, stupid is as stupid does. 
It was only a 2-week "time out" from trying to get el Bandito to actually quit compressing his photos into 1980's Donkey Kong resolutions.
Haven't darkened that door since I've been so fortunate to be presented a second chance 🤠
It was always entertaining to watch the cat fighting, but no real wood working value there since they went "dark" with the buyout.
Kinda like the company that makes Yugo's buying out BMW and putting out new models with American Southern efficiency and Northern charm. 
Update:

Plywood panel has a small amount of twist that could cause issues with my intended use, so I decided to make another, but with a new idea on getting a better (tighter) joint.

The simple shapes are easy to clean the long grain edges of the char, but the ends are more difficult. I use a small block with some 120 PSA grit. With the end grain, there is a chance of splintering off the sharp corners with the sanding block.

So what I decided to try is only cutting through the veneer along the long-grain sides and just leaving a shallow line along the ends.

This gives me a place to register a sharp chisel to cut the veneer at the line.

Still not perfect, but better!
These pieces are 3/8" wide.