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LIKE đ great idea rick. we dont have likes though, it's a thumbs up.
working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.
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We just had a discussion about forges last week. Ryan might use this ideaÂ
Damn it Rick! Now I have to make one of these!!! LOL....I have been saving saw blades to make knives for 30 some years now.... Great Idea....I love it!
Mike
we also have a metalworking forum, maybe post there also ?
working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.
Had the forge operational this afternoon. Wow! Hey Pottz.... I'll stick to woodworking for now. It's my love.Â
Hey all.. per Pottz's suggestion I posted to metalworking too!
Have you put a chunk of steel in there yet? Howâd it go? How long to heat up??
Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".
That's a good question. Yes I put a 4" long x 1/8" thick x 1/2" wide piece in. 15 minutes went by and the metal still was not red hot. It was hot but not at a point you take it to annealing. There was fair amount of smoke as well. I realized that the thickness of the Plaster of Paris was not fully dried yet. Still cool to the touch perhaps damp. Also it seems to me you can't just lay the piece in there and expect it to get red hot all around. The side that's against the Plaster of Paris is protected. Anyways I then held the cooled down metal piece in there again in the center of the chamber with a pair of metal tongs and it got red hot in under a minute. Real fast. A bit of experimenting as to what can or can not be done and learning from it is in order.Â
You done had to post this at the same time that I picked up my first anvil and hammer.
I guess thereâs no need to buy the Vevor now. I already have a new never-been-used paint can and a bottle of propain, looks like all I need are some feet for the can and your blend of insulation.
I just looked up the cost of Keowool, any reason you didnât go with that? I mean, I like your approach better â Keowool is dangerous if not sealed (you donât to breathe-in any of that ceramic if it gets airborne, I read, so you are supposed to seal it with cement?)
I guess thereâs no need to buy the Vevor now. I already have a new never-been-used paint can and a bottle of propain, looks like all I need are some feet for the can and your blend of insulation.
I just looked up the cost of Keowool, any reason you didnât go with that? I mean, I like your approach better â Keowool is dangerous if not sealed (you donât to breathe-in any of that ceramic if it gets airborne, I read, so you are supposed to seal it with cement?)
Dev, you need to use a liquid rigidizer on the wool first, so that it will hold up to having the refractory cement appliedâŚor so Iâve readâŚ
Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".
I went with Plaster of Paris because it's cheap. Every box store carries it. It's not dangerous. Easy to clean up. Biodegradable. Ditto for washed sand. Like it cost me $6 to make this forge.Â
SIX DOLLARS?!
In 2024?!
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In 2024?!
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Careful Dev, he might not be in Cali. That could be $6 in regular-world moneyâŚweâve gotta add our luxury taxes and fees to it, probably some sort of a sin tax, and itâll need to be electric because gas is the DevilâŚbut itâll still probably be less than $100 hereâŚmaybeâŚif you can get a permit for itâŚ
Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".
Ha ha LOL Ryan! You're probably right! Don't forget the addition of the climate change tax, urban street cleanup tax, and gas tax. Â
Cough. Ok, so Ryanâs not kidding.
How much did I pay for the paint can alone? Letâs see ⌠(pulls up purchase history)
https://a.co/d/74Ur3En
In Sep 2020, I paid $9.17 for that can.
Today it is going for $13.28.
So weâre already at over twice the total cost just by buying the paint can, and we havenât even purchased any carriage bolts, nuts, sand, plaster, or propane.
When Ryan says under $100, not by much.
I estimate over $50 in California monies.
EDIT: So when I see a single burner Vevor going for $78 that doesnât sound bad at all â https://a.co/d/2WMhf1P â or a double burner for $109 â https://a.co/d/71Avlia
How much did I pay for the paint can alone? Letâs see ⌠(pulls up purchase history)
https://a.co/d/74Ur3En
In Sep 2020, I paid $9.17 for that can.
Today it is going for $13.28.
So weâre already at over twice the total cost just by buying the paint can, and we havenât even purchased any carriage bolts, nuts, sand, plaster, or propane.
When Ryan says under $100, not by much.
I estimate over $50 in California monies.
EDIT: So when I see a single burner Vevor going for $78 that doesnât sound bad at all â https://a.co/d/2WMhf1P â or a double burner for $109 â https://a.co/d/71Avlia
I used an old empty paint can that I cleaned up. OPTIONS: If your don't have this then you could go to a recycling depot if you have one and get it for free... or ask a neighbor ... or look at what people are throwing away on trash pickup day.Â
Another option.... don't make this and use refractory bricks instead. They're pretty cheap at HD or at least they used to be.Â
Another option.... don't make this and use refractory bricks instead. They're pretty cheap at HD or at least they used to be.Â
Yeah, you canât usually get recycled items from a recycle center. They arenât usually open for outside purchase. Our county dump used to let people take items away if they wanted. That stopped about 15 years ago because of âliabilityâ and the fact they try to sell some of the recycling back to the state.Â
Nothing here makes sense except the weatherâŚ
Nothing here makes sense except the weatherâŚ
Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".
Other thoughts .... ever try going to a paint store and asking them for one .... or watch for someone painting their house and ask them for the empties ... or ask a realtor to save one when they have their people touch up a house for sale?... think outside the box đ
Probably find them easy enough at a garage or estate sale. Even if they arenât for sale, you could offer them $5âŚeveryone has at least a couple dried out ones around.Â
Dev, arenât you redoing your kitchen??? Gotta be paint in the somewhere.Â
Dev, arenât you redoing your kitchen??? Gotta be paint in the somewhere.Â
Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".
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