Table saw Arbor bearing Change

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In Dec 2016 I was given a Hare and Forbes 12" Table Saw from The Christian Brothers High School in Lewisham Sydney NSW.

The Woodworking Dept upgraded to a Sawstop, I am not sure who got the better deal!
I brought it to Brisbane and did some maintenance on it, made it Mobile, removed the key lock, and fitted an hourmeter.

It was manufactured in May 2003 and its serial Number is A3010.
This makes it a Spring chicken of just 22 years of age.
Since I have have had it the only items needed attention were, belts, blades and Cleaning
it has done just on 100 hrs of work with me over the nine years I have had it.
It has been instrumental in just about all of the projects you see posted.


however as it was shutting off this week I heard a slight squeak

I open the access door and removed the belts and blade, spun the motor no problem, spun the arbor and found some friction there.
I sprayed the arbor shaft bearing with some MX3 and tried again.
The shaft moved freer but not completely satisfactory.
I consulted the operators manual for maintenance schedules but there were none.
I did find a Exploded Parts Breakdown and Part Numbers but no bearings specs.

Part No 5 and Part No 18 were the items I needed

So upon visiting YouTube I found everybodys favorite Engineer Mathias Wandal has a post on the subject.
It appeared you need to remove the cast Iron table to access the arbor mechanism.
which was effectively a two person Job, so that was out of the question.
doing some Detective work I determined I may be able to remove the mechanism through the saw opening in the table.
So feeling like a vet trying to deliver a foal I set to work
It looked like the Arbor mechanism pivoted on a shaft held in place by a grub screw.
So in I went removed the grub screw and using a couple of bolt and a lump hammer I started to tap tap tap

Sure enough I saw it was moving! You beauty!
Tap tap again and it appeared.

I an not sure how many taps it was but consider it was more than five!
Eventually the reduced shank of the pivot appeared and I snapped on some vice grips and used a screwdriver to lever it out.

I jiggled it off the frame and out the access door.

It may have fitted through the saw blade opening but I didn't try.
Onto my work bench and continue removing another grub screw in the pulley off it came! hey  hey hey

next was a soft faced hammer to try and dislodge the shaft, sure enough out it came.

Removing the shaft I was left with one bearing on the flange end.

No way I could get any of my small motor bearing pullers on it so a Bearing Splitter was used.

Upon removal I saw the bearings were both the same size and were 6203 ZZ
Although marked 6203 with a single Z.
No really understanding why a maintainable bearing would be used in such a restricted space I fitted  2x 6203 2RS
and reassembled everything, finding everything fitted back perfectly.

Conclusion:-
Curious as to why the one bearing was sticking in the first place I conducted an autopsy


after cleaning all the balls I found them to be perfect  and then using a calibrated finger nail inside the race grooves I found no defect there either.
Just goes to show what 7 balls can do !
I can only assume over the years the build up  of fine sawdust restricted movement.
I powered  the saw back up checked the alignment and was obviously chuffed and gave it a fond pat!
and importantly the squeak was gone



Hopefully may be of use to somebody

Regards Rob
 


Regards Rob

13 Comments

Kill that squeaker! 😄 6203 is a common as dirt bearing. A lot  of people are scared to open up old machines, but there is always a bearing available. Nice job!

The Other Steven

That’s the best part about old machines, IMO (although I guess 2003 isn’t that old…): you can work on them. Like you used to be able to work on cars!!!

Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".

nice repair work rob. they sure dont make machines today like they used to. 

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

Sorry Rob, I don't think your mouse will be of use to many, maybe one of the BBQers will step up?

Love how "easy" you accomplished that. No frozen parts and no top removal! The arbor threads look excellent. I have to do the same with my Unisaw soon, bearings are somewhat noisy, no slop, but the arbor threads are getting gone.
Same vintage so perhaps the school kept the same blade in place and left the 10" saws for the blade-swapper crowd? 
 

Ingredients

  • Several Mice
  • Ethyl Alcohol
  • Salt pork or sowbelly (may substitute goat)
  • Flour
  • Spices (salt, pepper)
  • 6 - 8 cloves
  • Cream sauce

Directions


Skin, gut and wash some fat mice without removing their heads. Cover them in a pot with ethyl alcohol and marinate 2 hours. Cut a piece of salt pork or sowbelly into small dice and cook it slowly to extract the fat. Drain the mice, dredge them thoroughly in a mixture of flour, pepper, and salt, and fry slowly in the rendered fat for about 5 minutes. Add a cup of alcohol and 6 to 8 cloves, cover and simmer for 15 minutes. Prepare a cream sauce, transfer the sautéed mice to it, and warm them in it for about 10 minutes before serving. 

Darrel

sounds tasty fog but my doctor says ive been over doing it so ive cut had to cut back !

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

Awww P, you could try Fog's recipe and just send them on with your BeerBQ entry! The skins would make excellent covers for any BBQ implements you include (wink, wink, nudge. nudge)
your given me some idea's bud !

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

Sounds better than the Beef Wellingtons and Mushrooms we have been subjected to the over the past few months.
A recepie supplied from Erin Patterson in Morewell Melb, its possible LBD may know her.

Regards Rob

you dont like beef wellington ?

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

No I certainly don't, especially  when its laced with death cap mushrooms.

The facts of the case
On 29 July 2023, Patterson served beef Wellingtons to her estranged husband's parents, Don and Gail Patterson, her mother-in-law's sister, Heather Wilkinson, and Wilkinson's husband, Ian.

The lunch meal at her home in Leongatha consisted of steak covered in mushroom paste, wrapped in pastry.

All four guests were taken to hospital the following day. 

Heather Wilkinson and Gail Patterson both died on 4 August, and Don Patterson died on 5 August. Ian Wilkinson was the only guest who survived.

The Mushrooms:-
Gastrointestinal symptoms associated with eating Death Cap mushrooms can appear to resolve after 2 to 4 days, but toxic damage to the liver continues and causes death up to two weeks after ingestion. There is no complete antidote for Death Cap mushroom poisoning and survival depends on early diagnosis and treatment.

Regards Rob

Everything is Australia is trying to kill you…

Ryan/// ~sigh~ I blew up another bowl. Moke told me "I made the inside bigger than the outside".

no i prefer mine without the poisonous mushrooms rob. eating wild mushrooms is best left to the professionals.

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.