The Alphorn Experiment

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A buddy of mine asked me if I would be interested in making an alphorn (AKA Alpine Horn) for him.  It sounded like a comical challenge so I told him I would give it a try.  I did a blog on my journey to design and build it  so you can browse through that to see the details of the design and build process if interested.  Having only seen these in pictures and videos, I relied on a couple different online sources as well as pictures on websites that sell them to come up with the dimensions and design.  The assembled length is nearly 12' long and the diameter of the bell is about 9".  I chose to make it in sections because it needs to be transportable but this also made it possible, easier anyway, to use my CNC machine to shape most of the pieces.  The straight sections are made of 2 identical halves which are glued together and the bell section is made of 6 layers that were individually machined on my CNC and glued together.  The wood is primarily Douglas fir with one piece of SYP.  The joint sleeves, mouthpiece and the mouthpiece adapter were made from salvaged Bradford pear that I turned on the lathe.  

The biggest challenge was making joints that will slide together easily but hold together while being played.  The initial design using just the external sleeves turned out to be too wimpy.  I knew this might be the case when I designed it.  To get better joints, I made longer internal sleeves that gave me much better joints.  Both internal and external sleeves are fit with "crubber" gasket material to insure no air leaks and provide tighter joints.  I had hoped to use the real cork sheets like those used for the joints on woodwind instruments but sheets large enough for the these joints was going to be expensive.  The crubber is coated with woodwind cork grease to help them slide together easily.  One joint is a little looser than it should be so I may have to fix that for my friend at some point. 

Anyway, this was a really fun and challenging project. I used everything from hand planes to CNC machine to build it.  I am not sure I will ever make another but I already made some design changes that should make for a easier and tighter joints should I decide to.

Thanks for looking.  


--Nathan, TX. Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

27 Comments

Awesome!

There's roosters laying chickens,and chickens laying eggs... John Prine

thats bad ass nathan ! but what does one do with a 12' horn ? i guess you could pull it out at parties and entertain your guests !

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

That is about 2x as long as I was envisioning! A lot of work for a prototype, hope your buddy is pleased!

At least you are now the official go-to shop for AlpHorn fanatics 😃 
That is one very unique project, hard to build, but you nailed it. 

Talk about blowing your own trumpet...

Can just picture you at a dinner dinner, pulling it out of your pocket saying "let me whistle for a waiter"!

If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

I followed your blog LazyMan and it’s great to see it finished. Wonderful work. 
Now you can do Ricole commercials. 👍

James McIntyre

Fantastic job! Now I just wish I could hear it ;)
Looks amazing and very involved.  Does your buddy work for Ricola?
Wow! Your friend owes you a concert 😉
barb now a concert here in LA would mean a damn good payout for good seats ! i dont know about plano tx ? i think he needs to ask for a little more ?

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

Thanks guys.  
My friend is going to take it to someone who actually knows how to play one.  Not sure I want to know what they have to say about it.  Regardless it was a fun project.  

--Nathan, TX. Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

You'll have to get a recording to post! I'm interested in what it sounds like.
Challenging. I've watched and read this project with more than usual interest. Thank you for your contribution.

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i am slappin the chaps!

Well done

bra gjort
Jag ser korna komma

Regards Rob

That is some amazing skill building it!!!!!
A challenge met and done well.   Amazing design and build.   Impressed!

Ron

Nice to see the finished horn. I'm glad I was able to see it in progress.
Good project Nathan.

"Duck and Bob would be out doin some farming with funny hats on." chrisstef

So friggin' cool man!  I still haven't finished reading the blog but I couldn't resist peeking at the spoiler.  You did a fantastic job with breaking something so large and geometrically challenging up into bite-sized chunks.  The CNC didn't hurt either.  It would be a bear to build one of these without one!  After a brief look at prices online, you might want to batch out a few more and put them on Etsy 😉
Thanks, everyone.  

I contemplated doing more of the carving by hand and with an angle grinder but I would still be carving and grinding.  I probably would not have attempted this without a CNC to do the bulk of the shaping.  Should I ever decide to make another, I have modified my design to make the joints easier to do and eliminate the external sleeves.  Ideally, I would find some aluminum tubing of the right sizes to make the joints stronger.  That is how some of the commercially made ones are done.  

My friend took the alphorn to a friend of his yesterday who is a professional musician and plays the alphorn at various festivals around the world.  She tried it and thinks I have some air leaks at the joints I need to deal with to get a better sound.  I told my friend to try to hook up a compressor and block the end of the bell to get some light back pressure to see if he can figure out where they are.  

--Nathan, TX. Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

Nathan,

Really cool and a bit comical. 

Can you post some audio on you tube and attach a link here?  I'm requesting Smoke on the water.  Can you attach a Marshal amp?  Perhaps a wah wah pedal?

BTW you may have revolutionized the instrument by allowing it to be transported in sections! 


Petey