Box-Joint Jig

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Finally getting back to the shop after a way too long hiatus. Won’t explain, but had issues.

Anyway, I am attempting to make my first ever box-joint jig with:

  • sliding miter gauge
  • 3/4" MDF
  • 1/4″ × 1/4" DIY hardwood stock
  • A 1/4"-3/8" Freud Box-Joint Blade

First attempt, on scrap, was a complete failure and would not join at all. Second attempt joins, but I want to know how loose is TOO loose of a fit. On the end of a ~2-1/2" wide piece of hardwood, most of my joints have 0.012" to 0.015" gap (about 1/64"), when assembled into a box corner. FYI, the joint can fall apart via gravity if allowed.

Will TB3 basically make this a non-issue? Or do I need to ‘rinse and repeat’ for a tight/snug fit?

HorizontalMike

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I am not an expert but I think 1/64 is pretty good.
I am thinking when you apply the glue the fingers are going to swell a tiny from each side.

Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

Forgot images of test joints in white ash

HorizontalMike

Digging into my Gifted WW Library, I just found plans for a “micro-adjustable” box joint jig in ShopNotes Vol.2 No.8 March 1993.

This will be a small project in its own sake, but will be well used in the future. NOW I will be able to eliminate any/all gaps!… 8-)

HorizontalMike

That’s a bit more than I thought:)

Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

I built a similar jig for my router table. I have a different jig for 1/4" and 3/8" wide fingers. I did incorporate the fine adjustment for the finger width. I find that I like a snug fit for my joints. Also, I found the setting will be slightly different for different kinds of wood.

Good Luck and let us know how it works out.

That’s OK Mike, I’ve taken up where you left off, I’ve not been in my shop for a month, just taking a break. Nice box.

Randy - If I'm not on the computer than I'm out making sawdust.

The jig I first made was a very simple, cross your fingers and hope you got it right kind of jig. NO adjust-ability. I’ll use for my first box, a Hoppes gun cleaning kit, that I want to change from its OEM cheap plastic to wooden.

My next project will be the above “micro-adjustable” jig, once I get to WC and/or HD and pick up the needed bolts, inserts, and knobs.

Here is the simple jig. You can see where I had to attempt it twice (by the cuts). Not very substantial and will not last long IMO, but will work for now:

HorizontalMike

Mine is virtually the same as yours. It took a lot of trial and error to get right. Just keep plugging away. My “micro adjust” is my mallet. ;-)

Losing fingers since 1969

(nice to see you back again… hope all is well!)

Toxins Out, Nature In - body/mind/spirit

Thanks MsDebbie!

And BTW, I did finish up on my planer table project/blog. It was the first blog posted here on WWWeb 2 years ago (bottom of blog page 77). Yeah, I’m feelin’ a bit guilty… ;-)
"":https://woodworkingweb.com/entries/1-planer-table-cabinet

HorizontalMike

That looks perfect, Mike. You just need a bit of water on the corners, to bring it up to about twenty-one percent, and you’re good to go.

;)

As it is, it’s looking pretty close. I went the Incra route and it’s impressive.

Kelly,
THAT is what I am now thinking (Incra). I started pricing all the brass nuts, brass bolts, knobs, stock, etc. and I came up to about $75 of brass parts, JUST to build the DIY version above. And that DIY would be without a front clamping vise to hold the work piece.

I can get the Incra for $154.00 on Amazon w/FREE shipping. Basically for the difference of ~$75 I can have a much better jig. In the long run I am thinking that that will pay for itself many times over in convenience and durability. And since I have already purchased the 1/4"— 3/8" Freud Box-Joint Dado Blade, it makes sense to stay with a TS solution and besides the Incra can do both router and TS.

Thanks for the suggestion!

HorizontalMike

I have looked at the Ibox incra jig many times. It’s on my list.

Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

Hey Mike,

If you still want to build this jig, then this link may help you out…….

Edit… It is where I purchased mine a few yrs ago for $15.95

http://woodsmithstore.com/boxjoint.html

Measure "at least" twice and cut once

You’ve probably already ran a search of the reviews on the Incra, but, if you didn’t do. Generally, they come out as well as on any tool I’ve seen.

Because of the jig’s versatility, the initial learning curve takes a bit of effort. After that, simple refreshers fall in the “duh” category.

I keep the directions somewhat close, since I get away from the box for months at a time and need training after each coffee break.

The most problem I’ve read about seem to be with not following initial set up directions, which can throw things off, of course. However, unlike most our home made jigs, the Incra just has to be adjusted. Everything after that is a cake walk.

It’s so easy to use, I made my wife some small planter boxes from cedar scrap (okay, they were really test boxes and I told her I made them for her). I expected them to last a year, because they had no drainage, but they’re still hanging together, after a couple seasons of being doused with a hose.

After looking at the Incra very closely, I really like a couple of features that the DIY didn’t have, such as:

  • a wide fixed material rest
  • a front material clamp/vise to prevent inadvertent slipping while in use
  • adjustable miter slot rail for TS and Router setups
  • nearly all metal construction that pretty much eliminates swelling/constriction due to humidity issues over time.
  • AND last but not least… I got the Incra ordered yesterday!

FWIW, I want to spend more time building projects and less time building shop jigs & cabinets. For example, my DIY router based Horizontal Mortiser works fine once it is adjusted properly, however, it is the act of “adjusting” that is more trial and error than it is precise. I am sure that that experience plays into my decision to go commercial this time.

8-)

HorizontalMike

You should look at Matthias’ website. Great stuff.

https://woodgears.ca/box_joint/jig_improved.html

-Madts.

Tor and Odin are the greatest of gods.

Madts,
Yeah, that guy is rather over the top… wow!

I guess my over all point going forward is that I want my projects to be “final” products, and not another shop jig/machine. I understand that for some of us, just tweaking the shop with gadgets is, in and of itself, a hobby of its own. I did that for a bit, but now just want to get on with it. Built all the big pieces that my home can hold and am now wanting to shift to smaller projects like boxes and other similar sized things.

HorizontalMike

Hi Mike
I’ve been able to make both of the shop made jigs work fine ,but it takes a lot of fine tuning.but an Inca makes fine tuning much easier.

woodworking classes, custom furniture maker

a1jim,
Yeah, that’s what I figure. That ease of adjust-ability will help keep me less stressed in the long run, and that is a significant issue with me and the VA as of late… ;-)

Too bad that I ordered it right at Holiday season, as it will take ANOTHER week or so to arrive…

HorizontalMike